Great article and easy to understand. My favorite part is: "When it rises high enough, the two eyes become one and the light above shall fill the machine. This is the Christ force entering the machine – the body’s crucifixion is at hand, and a diamond is born." I think getting to that point is the ultimate goal. 🙏
Describing the internal battle I am currently facing with trying to 'de-program' is perfectly said when you indicated it is like a 'battle between an angel and demon'. Love that, it resonates deeply.
Thanks for your comment Jackie. Becoming aware of the program (ego) is a huge move forward in the process. It allows you to begin catching yourself before a mechanical action happens, or the sudden awareness kicks in right after it happens. This is becoming awake.
Very well expressed William. It seems once again we are on similar paths. I am reminded of Gurdjieff while reading. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 🙏
Thank you, as always for putting your wisdom and personal experience out into the world. One of the things I am interested in, is recognizing patterns in order to better understand how things are constructed here. Doing this helps to provide broader insights which then help to direct my thoughts and consider various courses of action across different types of situations. In relation to this, I was wondering if you’ve ever taken the Myers-Briggs test. If so, would you mind sharing your type? I am guessing that you are either an INFJ or at least an I - - J (something including an I and a J).
I am better at recognizing astrological patterns, and once was able to guess the Sun sign of an unknown (to me) author based on the emotions he expressed and the manner in which he expressed them. I’ve never thought about trying this with the Myers-Briggs types.
But in any case, the goal is to balance and master all of the archetypes, and be able to apply them as needed in the right time, place and degree.
I also wanted to address the idea of suffering, of which you briefly made mention. There are people in the energy healing fields who are talking about the idea that suffering is at some point no longer necessary in order to further one’s personal evolution. I don’t know if I agree with this. Even if one’s own character and circumstances are perfected, there is an assumption that we are all connected on some level. If this is the case, how can any one of us (pathological extremes aside, for the moment) not be suffering when even only one of us is known to be suffering? I think about this a lot, as there is also the ubiquitous “let go of what doesn’t serve you” phrase - which has become such a cliche - not only in the energy healing fields but now in the broader western culture. What if what seems not to be “serving” a person, is actually part of a lesson that must be endured/suffered to the end, in order for it to (paradoxically) serve that person? For example, “letting go” of a seemingly intolerable friend, just when that person was on the verge of some meaningful transformation which somehow required one’s involvement? To some extent, I feel like this culture of “letting go” could slide into a culture of giving up too soon when the going gets rough. The idea that highly evolved people are no longer required to suffer easily plays into this trap, to my way of thinking. I wonder, what are your thoughts on this?
HI CJ. I'm not familiar with Myers_Briggs so I can't really comment. Letting go, as you say, is extremely liberating and healing, but it should be acted on from those deeper "gut feelings" rather than the intellectual logic. I have been training myself to find correlation between my logic mind and my deeper feelings before making decisions. The more you do this, the stronger and clearer those deeper feelings become - it's almost like developing a mild clairvoyance. However, its very easy to be deceived by the mind (ego) because the mind has been in control of the machine for so long that it can easily trigger emotional states making one assume these are more psychic or spiritual impulses when they are just states or chemicals produced by the mind. Meditation helps one begin to detach from the mind and all of its tricks to stay in command.
My opinion on suffering is that suffering only exists in the ego mind. Once one trains to detach from the mind, the diving program can begin to manifest in the body. Suffering then transforms to "growth." Suffering thus ends when the mind is no longer the governor of the body and the being in the body takes over.
Regarding suffering - why would one train to detach from the mind, when the mind is what keeps us functioning in this reality? It’s something we need otherwise we can’t live. If the end result is that we can’t live, and/or the aim is not to live in this reality, then why not just commit suicide and be done with it? Why this long, drawn out, meditative process of detaching from what makes it possible to live here? If it’s the ego mind you’re talking about, how is the ego mind different from the (presumably) divine - or some other - kind of mind?
What about when one’s spouse, child, pet, or any other being aside from the self is suffering? It feels psychopathic to me, not to vicariously feel a sense of suffering for what these others are going through: the people in war torn Gaza, dogs and cats in China’s meat markets, horrifically abused children and animals, etc. Are we supposed to watch all of these kinds of things unfold and tell ourselves, “Suffering is just a product of the egoic mind; therefore I will/must detach from this.” Detachment from the ability to feel another’s suffering in some way as one’s own is the hallmark of murderers and others who perpetrate evil. It is inhuman, in other words.
I understand and agree with the idea that suffering can foster growth, and that it is therefore useful in that sense. But to say that suffering ends when the mind is no longer the governor of the body and the “being” in the body takes over, is all just words for me. What is the “being” in the body that takes over? Does this being have a mind? If not, how is it operating? If so, how is it different from the present mind that we each have? And regardless of whether or not it has a mind as we understand it, if it has the ability to stand by robotically with detachment, when other beings around it are in the throes of tremendous pain, the what good is it? Can it even be called “good”, as we understand the term?
I am not deliberately trying to be provocative and difficult, in my response. But I am challenging some of what you’ve written, because it does not make rational sense to me. One could argue that maybe I’m not a spiritual enough person, that I just don’t “get it”, or that even if I am a spiritual person, if I haven’t had certain “experiences” then I just “wouldn’t understand”.
But my counter argument to these arguments would be:
“Then what is the point of writing about these esoteric ideas, when the only people who will truly ‘get it’ are the ones who are in a similar place of experience? They’re not the ones who need to hear about it; it’s the ones who *haven't* had certain experiences, who need to hear/read. But if they are in fact incapable of understanding because they haven’t experienced, then the whole point of sharing information becomes entirely moot. No amount of explaining will provide elucidation, if it cannot be grasped by the rational mind - the mind that all of these neophytes are presumably operating under.”
I really hate to appear confrontational and provocative, because it seems you’re walking a worthwhile path - or at least you believe you are. And you probably in fact are…. But I can’t also not respond truthfully, from my own point of view.
This concept isn't something that you can understand intellectual. It is something that has to be experienced. Until you experience your true self outside of the body, none of this will make sense - the mind cannot grasp anything beyond it's 3D diagram of reality. If you truly want to "know," then you have to begin the journey of self discovery - it's the greatest adventure. I don't suggest that you believe anything that you haven't verified for yourself. Trying to understand this is like trying to understand what its like to give birth... no words will give the mind what it needs to understand. If my work resonates with you at some level, read these articles in this order to get more insight on these concepts that I'm talking about:
Thank you, once again, for your response. While the ideas I put forth about suffering were not directly addressed, I do appreciate the link you provided- and have begun reading it. I suppose that at this point, all I can do is take your word for it, as the saying goes. Actually, I already do. What I remain unsure about is the accuracy of experiential assessment.
I say this as someone who has in fact had “otherworldly” and otherwise unexplainable experiences such as an OBE, to name one. It’s not that I don’t believe these - and other - experiences are not “real”, or genuinely being experienced. I just wonder what they actually mean and from where they really come, and am very hesitant in landing on anything definitive in that regard. Mice in a lab might think something magical is happening when food suddenly appears at the end of a maze, but presumably they still have no idea of what is actually going on, or who is really pulling the strings.
Similarly, I wonder if this is the case with humans. We attach meaning to experiences, possibly, with no real understanding of the true origin or architect(s), if you will, of those experiences, or the possibly very intricate, underlying mechanisms at work. One person has an NDE and details a very real, very visceral trip to “hell”, where pain and torment are actually felt experiences. Another has an NDE, meets Jesus, and assures us there are no “judgments” and there is only love. Yet another discusses an NDA in which karma was revealed to him as a condition of our reality (which of course implies consequences for actions, which is very “judgment adjacent”). A fourth person says that all of the above scenarios are all in one’s mind and not really happening at all. And he knows this because a light being conveyed that information to him when he was technically dead of a heart attack. Experiences, all of them - but vastly different in content and meaning.
Therefore, I can’t say I really trust experience, even, as this can quite possibly be manipulated by forces entirely unseen and/or unknown to us (much as the mice in the lab scenario). It’s really quite the conundrum….
This is not even touching upon “conspiracy theories” and advanced tech such as voice-to-skull technology, which is purported to exist, by some.
All this said, I have read a book by Rudolf Steiner, which you recommended in one of your articles, and I found his writing style and content to be compelling, and instructional. It is a worthwhile read, and worthwhile to actually apply, I think - which I’ve done to varying degrees and with varying consistency. (Consistency being key to the whole process, as I understand).
I also found what you’ve written about fasting, diet and supplements to be true, as I’ve been practicing fasting for many years now- though probably not as often as I could be.
Nevertheless, I remain on guard and somewhat skeptical when it comes to going all-in on “experience” as the primary driver of true understanding in any given situation. If we are living in a complex simulation scenario for instance, any experience can be manipulated to suit the aim of the architect/s of the simulation. We can only hope (unlike the humans testing on lab mice) that they are benevolent, and are, at least on some level, acting in our best interests.
Great article and easy to understand. My favorite part is: "When it rises high enough, the two eyes become one and the light above shall fill the machine. This is the Christ force entering the machine – the body’s crucifixion is at hand, and a diamond is born." I think getting to that point is the ultimate goal. 🙏
Thank you so much for your comment - it means a lot to me.
Describing the internal battle I am currently facing with trying to 'de-program' is perfectly said when you indicated it is like a 'battle between an angel and demon'. Love that, it resonates deeply.
Thanks for your comment Jackie. Becoming aware of the program (ego) is a huge move forward in the process. It allows you to begin catching yourself before a mechanical action happens, or the sudden awareness kicks in right after it happens. This is becoming awake.
Wow! What an ending paragraph! I haven’t had this experience yet
It'll begin to grow once your life is aligned for it, and this happens when the desire for it dominates everything else in life.
Very well expressed William. It seems once again we are on similar paths. I am reminded of Gurdjieff while reading. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 🙏
Gurdjieff's work is paramount on understanding how we are wired into the machine.
Indeed! Kind of figured you were familiar with him. His student P.D. Ouspensky and Rudolf Steiner also seem to have valuable insights.
(Like button no worky) LIKE! 💖
Steiner was one of the great sages of our time. He came out of the Rosicrucian mystery schools. Great authors. Thanks for your comments :-)
You’re welcome William.
Glad I found your substack.
Thank you, as always for putting your wisdom and personal experience out into the world. One of the things I am interested in, is recognizing patterns in order to better understand how things are constructed here. Doing this helps to provide broader insights which then help to direct my thoughts and consider various courses of action across different types of situations. In relation to this, I was wondering if you’ve ever taken the Myers-Briggs test. If so, would you mind sharing your type? I am guessing that you are either an INFJ or at least an I - - J (something including an I and a J).
I am better at recognizing astrological patterns, and once was able to guess the Sun sign of an unknown (to me) author based on the emotions he expressed and the manner in which he expressed them. I’ve never thought about trying this with the Myers-Briggs types.
But in any case, the goal is to balance and master all of the archetypes, and be able to apply them as needed in the right time, place and degree.
I also wanted to address the idea of suffering, of which you briefly made mention. There are people in the energy healing fields who are talking about the idea that suffering is at some point no longer necessary in order to further one’s personal evolution. I don’t know if I agree with this. Even if one’s own character and circumstances are perfected, there is an assumption that we are all connected on some level. If this is the case, how can any one of us (pathological extremes aside, for the moment) not be suffering when even only one of us is known to be suffering? I think about this a lot, as there is also the ubiquitous “let go of what doesn’t serve you” phrase - which has become such a cliche - not only in the energy healing fields but now in the broader western culture. What if what seems not to be “serving” a person, is actually part of a lesson that must be endured/suffered to the end, in order for it to (paradoxically) serve that person? For example, “letting go” of a seemingly intolerable friend, just when that person was on the verge of some meaningful transformation which somehow required one’s involvement? To some extent, I feel like this culture of “letting go” could slide into a culture of giving up too soon when the going gets rough. The idea that highly evolved people are no longer required to suffer easily plays into this trap, to my way of thinking. I wonder, what are your thoughts on this?
HI CJ. I'm not familiar with Myers_Briggs so I can't really comment. Letting go, as you say, is extremely liberating and healing, but it should be acted on from those deeper "gut feelings" rather than the intellectual logic. I have been training myself to find correlation between my logic mind and my deeper feelings before making decisions. The more you do this, the stronger and clearer those deeper feelings become - it's almost like developing a mild clairvoyance. However, its very easy to be deceived by the mind (ego) because the mind has been in control of the machine for so long that it can easily trigger emotional states making one assume these are more psychic or spiritual impulses when they are just states or chemicals produced by the mind. Meditation helps one begin to detach from the mind and all of its tricks to stay in command.
My opinion on suffering is that suffering only exists in the ego mind. Once one trains to detach from the mind, the diving program can begin to manifest in the body. Suffering then transforms to "growth." Suffering thus ends when the mind is no longer the governor of the body and the being in the body takes over.
Thank you for your response.
Regarding suffering - why would one train to detach from the mind, when the mind is what keeps us functioning in this reality? It’s something we need otherwise we can’t live. If the end result is that we can’t live, and/or the aim is not to live in this reality, then why not just commit suicide and be done with it? Why this long, drawn out, meditative process of detaching from what makes it possible to live here? If it’s the ego mind you’re talking about, how is the ego mind different from the (presumably) divine - or some other - kind of mind?
What about when one’s spouse, child, pet, or any other being aside from the self is suffering? It feels psychopathic to me, not to vicariously feel a sense of suffering for what these others are going through: the people in war torn Gaza, dogs and cats in China’s meat markets, horrifically abused children and animals, etc. Are we supposed to watch all of these kinds of things unfold and tell ourselves, “Suffering is just a product of the egoic mind; therefore I will/must detach from this.” Detachment from the ability to feel another’s suffering in some way as one’s own is the hallmark of murderers and others who perpetrate evil. It is inhuman, in other words.
I understand and agree with the idea that suffering can foster growth, and that it is therefore useful in that sense. But to say that suffering ends when the mind is no longer the governor of the body and the “being” in the body takes over, is all just words for me. What is the “being” in the body that takes over? Does this being have a mind? If not, how is it operating? If so, how is it different from the present mind that we each have? And regardless of whether or not it has a mind as we understand it, if it has the ability to stand by robotically with detachment, when other beings around it are in the throes of tremendous pain, the what good is it? Can it even be called “good”, as we understand the term?
I am not deliberately trying to be provocative and difficult, in my response. But I am challenging some of what you’ve written, because it does not make rational sense to me. One could argue that maybe I’m not a spiritual enough person, that I just don’t “get it”, or that even if I am a spiritual person, if I haven’t had certain “experiences” then I just “wouldn’t understand”.
But my counter argument to these arguments would be:
“Then what is the point of writing about these esoteric ideas, when the only people who will truly ‘get it’ are the ones who are in a similar place of experience? They’re not the ones who need to hear about it; it’s the ones who *haven't* had certain experiences, who need to hear/read. But if they are in fact incapable of understanding because they haven’t experienced, then the whole point of sharing information becomes entirely moot. No amount of explaining will provide elucidation, if it cannot be grasped by the rational mind - the mind that all of these neophytes are presumably operating under.”
I really hate to appear confrontational and provocative, because it seems you’re walking a worthwhile path - or at least you believe you are. And you probably in fact are…. But I can’t also not respond truthfully, from my own point of view.
This concept isn't something that you can understand intellectual. It is something that has to be experienced. Until you experience your true self outside of the body, none of this will make sense - the mind cannot grasp anything beyond it's 3D diagram of reality. If you truly want to "know," then you have to begin the journey of self discovery - it's the greatest adventure. I don't suggest that you believe anything that you haven't verified for yourself. Trying to understand this is like trying to understand what its like to give birth... no words will give the mind what it needs to understand. If my work resonates with you at some level, read these articles in this order to get more insight on these concepts that I'm talking about:
https://seeker333.substack.com/p/the-deception-of-the-ego?r=23hlzm
https://seeker333.substack.com/p/the-simulation-the-self-and-the-anhiliation?r=23hlzm
https://seeker333.substack.com/p/hacking-the-mind-matrix?r=23hlzm
Thank you, once again, for your response. While the ideas I put forth about suffering were not directly addressed, I do appreciate the link you provided- and have begun reading it. I suppose that at this point, all I can do is take your word for it, as the saying goes. Actually, I already do. What I remain unsure about is the accuracy of experiential assessment.
I say this as someone who has in fact had “otherworldly” and otherwise unexplainable experiences such as an OBE, to name one. It’s not that I don’t believe these - and other - experiences are not “real”, or genuinely being experienced. I just wonder what they actually mean and from where they really come, and am very hesitant in landing on anything definitive in that regard. Mice in a lab might think something magical is happening when food suddenly appears at the end of a maze, but presumably they still have no idea of what is actually going on, or who is really pulling the strings.
Similarly, I wonder if this is the case with humans. We attach meaning to experiences, possibly, with no real understanding of the true origin or architect(s), if you will, of those experiences, or the possibly very intricate, underlying mechanisms at work. One person has an NDE and details a very real, very visceral trip to “hell”, where pain and torment are actually felt experiences. Another has an NDE, meets Jesus, and assures us there are no “judgments” and there is only love. Yet another discusses an NDA in which karma was revealed to him as a condition of our reality (which of course implies consequences for actions, which is very “judgment adjacent”). A fourth person says that all of the above scenarios are all in one’s mind and not really happening at all. And he knows this because a light being conveyed that information to him when he was technically dead of a heart attack. Experiences, all of them - but vastly different in content and meaning.
Therefore, I can’t say I really trust experience, even, as this can quite possibly be manipulated by forces entirely unseen and/or unknown to us (much as the mice in the lab scenario). It’s really quite the conundrum….
This is not even touching upon “conspiracy theories” and advanced tech such as voice-to-skull technology, which is purported to exist, by some.
All this said, I have read a book by Rudolf Steiner, which you recommended in one of your articles, and I found his writing style and content to be compelling, and instructional. It is a worthwhile read, and worthwhile to actually apply, I think - which I’ve done to varying degrees and with varying consistency. (Consistency being key to the whole process, as I understand).
I also found what you’ve written about fasting, diet and supplements to be true, as I’ve been practicing fasting for many years now- though probably not as often as I could be.
Nevertheless, I remain on guard and somewhat skeptical when it comes to going all-in on “experience” as the primary driver of true understanding in any given situation. If we are living in a complex simulation scenario for instance, any experience can be manipulated to suit the aim of the architect/s of the simulation. We can only hope (unlike the humans testing on lab mice) that they are benevolent, and are, at least on some level, acting in our best interests.
Will continue to read what you’ve written….